The CCSARP’s Podcast

Episode 45 - Author Beth Hyland Speaks With CCSARP!
 
Mike and Brian welcome Beth Hyland, Author of the book, Diary of a Romance Scam: When Swiping Right Goes Wrong! Please join us for a sneak peak into her new book! Share and Subscribe!
 
 
ANNOUNCING BETH HYLAND's NEW BOOK: DIARY OF A ROMANCE SCAM: WHEN SWIPING RIGHT GOES WRONG
AMAZON: https://a.co/d/eXDBAsO. Or any Barnes & Noble Bookseller
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
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Episode 44 - Life Goes On, Dealing with Other Losses Besides the Scam
 
Mike and Brian discuss dealing with loss from something other than a scam, attending a Funeral for a family friend. Please share and follow!
 
 
ANNOUNCING BETH HYLAND's NEW BOOK: DIARY OF A ROMANCE SCAM: WHEN SWIPING RIGHT GOES WRONG
AMAZON: https://a.co/d/eXDBAsO. Or any Barnes & Noble Bookseller
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 43 - Using Common Sense to Deal With PTSD
 
Mike and Brian discuss a phone call regarding triggers and PTSD from their listeners. Remember to share and subscribe!  
 
ANNOUNCING BETH HYLAND's NEW BOOK: DIARY OF A ROMANCE SCAM: WHEN SWIPING RIGHT GOES WRONG
AMAZON: https://a.co/d/eXDBAsO. Or any Barnes & Noble Bookseller
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 42 - Witness REAL EMOTIONAL HEALING VIA Getting to the CAUSE of THE CAUSE
 
Mike and Brian take a moment to do some problem solving surrounding Brian's melancholy mood following an emotional trial and tribulation during the end of June 2025. Please share and follow!  This episode is a must listen for not just Scammees, but witness what emotional healing looks like in real time!
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 41 - CCSARP Welcomes Heath to the Studio to talk with Mike about Supporting Scamees
 
Mike and Brian welcome Heath, who was also a friend and came with Mike, scamee supporters to Brian. They discuss another scam of the week, along with ways to inform a scamee that they are being scammed. Remember to follow and share! 
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 40 - GUT CHECK TIME- Third Quarter
 
Mike and Brian discuss their progress via a gut check. The Podcast enters the third quarter since the first episode where Brian told the world what happened to him. Remember to follow and share.
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 39 - Active Listening is a Communication Skill All Need to Learn
 
Mike and Brian respond to an email from Donna, who is helping her sister, who an evil scammer scammed. It is time to learn some communication skills. Please check out the articles below, follow, and share! Remember to follow and share!!!!
 
References used during the podcast:
 
Active Listening:
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-active-listening-3024343
 
What are communication skills?
https://www.verywellmind.com/communication-in-relationships-why-it-matters-and-how-to-improve-5218269
 
 
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 38 - TRUST but Verify
 
Mike and Brian discuss trust and how to rebuild it. Trust is another feeling in life that is necessary for happiness and destroyed by Evil Scammers. Be sure to follow and share this important episode.
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post, North Korea is also behind the email and text scams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 37- Zach comes to speak with #CCSARP
 
Brian and Mike talk to Zach about a new scam that is moving into the JOB MARKET. EVIL SCAMMERS are imitating employers and money laundering by pretending to give you a job and they get scamees to overdraft your account. Learn about a novel scam coming to the job market.
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
Podbean.  https://r4j68.app.goo.gl/?link=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com%3Faction%3DopenPodcast%26podcastId%3Dpbblog19512328%26podcastIdTag%3Dhxbt7&dfl=https%3A%2F%2FCCSARP.podbean.com&utm_campaign=pb_web&utm_source=podbean_web&utm_medium=dlink&imv=670&amv=530&isi=973361050&ibi=com.podbean.app.podcast&ipbi=com.podbean.app.podcast&apn=com.podbean.app.podcast
 
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Episode 36 - Let's Talk About SHAME, and Stop Suffering in Silence
 
Brian and Mike talk about Shame and how it is the emotion responsible for inhibiting your recovery from the scam.  Please follow and share!!!! 
 
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
 
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams!  https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
 
 
 
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please:   ccsarp@pm.me
 
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
 
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP:  https://x.com/C2SARP
 
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
 
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
 
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
 
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
 
Apple Podcasts:  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
 
Spotify  https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX 
 
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