The CCSARP’s Podcast
The Cyber-Crime Survivors Advisory & Recovery Podcast is created to raise awareness about the ongoing theft of people’s lifesaving and wealth by evil cyber criminals. It is time to stop shaming victims and start sharing the truth about what is happening to our families and friends. CCSARP is a safe place for learning and growth that will empower cybercrime victims to become survivors. Another goal is if all people are aware of the evil theft of money from our loved one, we can shut down cyber criminals. www.ccsarp.com or email: ccsarp@pm.me
Episodes

19 minutes ago
19 minutes ago
Episode 43 - Using Common Sense to Deal With PTSD
Mike and Brian discuss a phone call regarding triggers and PTSD from their listeners. Remember to share and subscribe!
ANNOUNCING BETH HYLAND's NEW BOOK: DIARY OF A ROMANCE SCAM: WHEN SWIPING RIGHT GOES WRONG
AMAZON: https://a.co/d/eXDBAsO. Or any Barnes & Noble Bookseller
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
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Sunday Jul 06, 2025
Sunday Jul 06, 2025
Episode 42 - Witness REAL EMOTIONAL HEALING VIA Getting to the CAUSE of THE CAUSE
Mike and Brian take a moment to do some problem solving surrounding Brian's melancholy mood following an emotional trial and tribulation during the end of June 2025. Please share and follow! This episode is a must listen for not just Scammees, but witness what emotional healing looks like in real time!
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out this resource for understanding loneliness. https://www.campaigntoendloneliness.org
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday Jun 29, 2025
Sunday Jun 29, 2025
Episode 41 - CCSARP Welcomes Heath to the Studio to talk with Mike about Supporting Scamees
Mike and Brian welcome Heath, who was also a friend and came with Mike, scamee supporters to Brian. They discuss another scam of the week, along with ways to inform a scamee that they are being scammed. Remember to follow and share!
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Sunday Jun 22, 2025
Episode 40 - GUT CHECK TIME- Third Quarter
Mike and Brian discuss their progress via a gut check. The Podcast enters the third quarter since the first episode where Brian told the world what happened to him. Remember to follow and share.
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday Jun 15, 2025
Sunday Jun 15, 2025
Episode 39 - Active Listening is a Communication Skill All Need to Learn
Mike and Brian respond to an email from Donna, who is helping her sister, who an evil scammer scammed. It is time to learn some communication skills. Please check out the articles below, follow, and share! Remember to follow and share!!!!
References used during the podcast:
Active Listening:
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-active-listening-3024343
What are communication skills?
https://www.verywellmind.com/communication-in-relationships-why-it-matters-and-how-to-improve-5218269
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday Jun 08, 2025
Sunday Jun 08, 2025
Episode 38 - TRUST but Verify
Mike and Brian discuss trust and how to rebuild it. Trust is another feeling in life that is necessary for happiness and destroyed by Evil Scammers. Be sure to follow and share this important episode.
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post, North Korea is also behind the email and text scams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday Jun 01, 2025
Sunday Jun 01, 2025
Episode 37- Zach comes to speak with #CCSARP
Brian and Mike talk to Zach about a new scam that is moving into the JOB MARKET. EVIL SCAMMERS are imitating employers and money laundering by pretending to give you a job and they get scamees to overdraft your account. Learn about a novel scam coming to the job market.
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday May 25, 2025
Sunday May 25, 2025
Episode 36 - Let's Talk About SHAME, and Stop Suffering in Silence
Brian and Mike talk about Shame and how it is the emotion responsible for inhibiting your recovery from the scam. Please follow and share!!!!
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7jfa16t7zSdwYawmsDjeqX
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Sunday May 18, 2025
Sunday May 18, 2025
Episode 35 - A Tribute to our Followers and Getting Back to Talking about Taxes
Brian and Mike, thank you for listening to this podcast. We also discuss dealing with the IRS.
Important Tax Information from Frost Law, Hat tip Alice! Understand IRS Guidance on Deducting Losses from Online Investment Scams
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
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Sunday May 11, 2025
Sunday May 11, 2025
Episode 34 - Epoch Times Article Review Part III - Evidence Clearly Shows the Chinese Communist Party Are Final Take-Aways from our discussion
Brian and Mike talk about Chris Sommers' EPOCH TIMES article "CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Experts Say." In this second part of a three-part series, we discuss this article and how it sheds light on what happened to Brian and who did it. Please follow and share this podcast!!! READ THIS ARTICLE Below:
CCP Likely Enabling Industrial Cyber Scamming of US Nationals, Say Experts
https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/article/ccp-likely-enabling-industrial-cyber-scamming-of-us-nationals-say-experts-5840377?utm_medium=app&c=share_pos2&pid=iOS_app_share&utm_source=iOS_app_share
Additional Resource from the NY Post North Korea also behind the email and text shams! https://nypost.com/2025/05/01/us-news/north-korea-linked-gang-stole-billions-from-americans-through-romance-scams-online-schemes/
Alice wanted to pass along the following information regarding the IRS stance on the tax code:
https://youtu.be/uaF2lM8-A3c?si=vdb80MF33g7KLUXt
If you have any comments or want to tell your story, email please: ccsarp@pm.me
Check out our website www.ccsarp.com
Check out CCSARP on X: @C2SARP: https://x.com/C2SARP
If you need support, need to report your scam, or want to learn more, head over to www.fightcybercrime.org. This organization was my lighthouse to finding my way back to being me. Shout out to Aly, Kim, and Pat, who work tirelessly to stop cybercrime and help victims become survivors.
Check out Cathy Wilson's Website:
https://www.scamsurvivorhealing.com
Read Cathy Wilson's book:
https://a.co/d/f0GMGbo
Please share and subscribe this podcast on the following:
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ccsarps-podcast/id1772603440
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